Welcome to IWNerd.com’s coverage of WWE Payback 2017!!! We will be hosting a live chat for the event in the comment section below! Please join us and talk the show with a good crew! Consider yourself invited! Should be a lot of fun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Here is the match card for tonight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HOUSE OF HORRORS – Randy Orton (c) vs. Bray Wyatt
Braun Strowman vs. Roman Reigns
RAW TAG TEAM TITLES – The Hardy Boyz (c) vs. Cesaro & Sheamus
UNITED STATES CHAMPIONSHIP – Kevin Owens (c) vs. Chris Jericho
WWE RAW WOMEN’S CHAMPIONSHIP – Bayley (c) vs. Alexa Bliss
WWE CRUISERWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP – Neville (c) vs. Austin Aries
Seth Rollins vs. Samoa Joe
KICKOFF
Enzo Amore & Big Cass vs. Luke Gallows & Karl Anderson
KICKOFF
MizTV with Finn Balor
Here we go! Kickoff show
Not feeling this ppv tonight
Yeah I think it might surprise us
I hope it does. Because I felt that they rushed tgis ppv and the last minute switch of Bray really messed things up for them a lot. Looks like payback is just to tie up loose ends also Dean and Sasha are not on the card
Yep you aren’t wrong. Still some good matches tho
Predictions?
Enzo and Cass Aries Bayley Rollins Hardyz Owens Bray
Good picks
Bray, Strowman, Hardyz, KO, Bliss, Aries, Rollins and The Club.
Good picks!
Tag match kicks us off
Corey is the best commentator WWE has had for years
Agree and Cole is grooming him for the future
Agreed, He is excellent
Lol Enzo and Cass are killing me with this Chinese food promo on the club
Here come Jesse and Festus
Let’s go
I feel like we have seen this match 1000 times
That’s because we have
I wanted the club vs Hardyz for the titles
Oh god they’re being put around R-Truth that means they’re gonna catch his stupid and lose tonight
lol
So Sheamus and Cesaro what are we thinking? Heel turn win/loss, or loss then breakup? I think heel turn beatdown after a loss, maybe breaking Matt a bit more.
I think you are right
Who’s the Rick Moranis lookalike on the kickoff panel?
Predictions for the house of horrors?
I just hope its not as luckluster as their match was at mania
Yeah that was a bummer
I was on board with that match until the powerpoint show. Shut me down totally.
Any reason as to why they’re still using the old NXT titles at live events?
WHAT REALLY?!?!?!?
Yep! I know a friend that went to one last night and he said they came out with the old titles
That makes no sense what is the point of new titles then
Not sure. On WWE’s IG page, they posted a pic of Roode doing his entrance and you can tell it’s the old one
Maybe saving them for big shows?
Are they?
Yep! A friend said they did last night
Probably the same reason they use cheaper title belts for house shows on the MR: Protect the investment.
Balor vs the Miz. I am game!
As the makings for a good feud. I’m interested to see Bálor/Lesnar
@Tiffany:disqus Wish Ambrose was hosting an open challenge
Wish he was too, but I think he’ll be there in some capacity tonight.
Think so too
Let’s go!
Anyone looking forward to any particular match?
Rollins Joe will be good
Hardy’s has potential
I want to see that House of Horrors match. I don’t care what anyone says, the whole idea about that match has intrigued me after seeing the brawl at the Wyatt compound between the Wyatts and the New Day. People can call it a copy of Total Non-Stop Deletion and maybe it is, but I only say the WWE version and I was into it. So this House of Horrors things is super intriguing to me.
Reigns Strowman, I think it’s gonna be good. Hate Roman all you want, he puts on good matches. Just hope his head’s in it.
I swear there’s been like 4 different intros before the start of this PPV
lol
Huge pop for Y2J
Legend!
Who ya got winning?
KO
KO
Because we are in the age of the internet where everything is spoiled weeks in advance, I got KO because we know Jericho is not advertised for any events after Raw tomorrow night. But for that reason, I expect a great match.
Chris Jericho has easily been the best part of the WWE for 2016-2017
I find this ironic because so many people were bashing him for “the list” early in 2016 and by the end of the year those same people were calling it the best part of WWE programming ALL YEAR.
There are always the neigh-sayers
Hope the crowd aren’t too vicious to Reigns tonight. Guy’s had a hard couple weeks.
He’s for sure getting booed out of the building
People don’t care. People are vicious. It would be nice to see them give him a break tonight but I don’t think it will happen.
WOW!
Oh wow, I’m 0-2 ._.
WHAT NEW US CHAMP
Uhhh that was a nice surprise. I’m kinda curious what they’re going to do if he’s going on tour with Fozzy soon.
WHOA
is Owens on RAW now? lol
I hope so. Maybe him and Finn can go at it to see who deserves a title rematch first
If he is, gurantee he’ll be in the IC title picture against Ambrose again
Time for another title change… hopefully
Wouldn’t mind seeing Aries as champ
Same. Especially since his run in NXT wasnt very long
Yeah. I reckon after his feud with Hideo Itami (had he not got injured again), he would’ve been in the NXT title picture.
Wassup guys.
How are ya!
Good
Neville retains!
But Aries was robbed
Heel’s advantage
Only solution is a no DQ match
That was a slightly disappointing finish
Calling Shinsuke “The Artist” just because he wears a Michael Jackson-like jacket is not the way to go
Nakamura making it to Smackdown was a dream come true for me.
Great pop for the Hardys
Anyone think The Hardy Boyz actually lose?
How dare you
I don’t want them to lose, I’m just asking because I would be shocked
I hope they dont lose. I want to see them at Great Balls of Fire as champs still.
That PPV is going to be like the name Voldemort for me ?
I liked the name when i first read the article. Then i turned on twitter & seen that the majority hated it. Lol
You are in the minority then haha. Out of all the possible pay-per-view names….Great Balls of Fire. There better be an Inferno match in there
… Or at minimum, somebody going through a table thats on fire.
I’d accept that!
I likeJeff Hardys “swag dance” lol
POETRY IN MOTION
DELETE!
Anyone else noticing after the two count there is a few people saying in a high pitched tone “Three?” I noticed it on NXT too
They’re actually saying Sweeeeeet. As in 2 Sweeeeeeet
Gotta love wrestling fans.
These 3 matches have been lit. Vince sure puts on great PPV’s consistently. The weekly shows may be good but the PPV’s are always great.
Great match.
Cesaro with the heel turn
Heel turn!
Raw needed another heel team. They only had The Club. It makes sense and now it will be interesting to see Cesaro as a heel. His run with Tyson was so long ago I barely remember it. I was not really into Cesaro back then.
Looks like Cesaro is back to being heel
I always love a good ol’ heel turn
Heel turn!
I love seeing Sheamus as a heel. Fits him very well.
Heel Sheamus is great. He’s okay as a face, but he’s really good as a heel.
#IfRomanLosesWeRiot
Please win this Alexa
Yes
Alexa Bliss is on my screen. The new queen of RAW has arrived.
Bayley is mega-over in her hometown
Just asking for curiosity sake: who do you guys and gals like more? Bliss or Bayley?
Bliss. Way more entertaining
I cannot get behind Bayley because I think she is VERY weak on the mic. I like watching her wrestle, but hate listening to her promos.
All her promos are the same
I would honestly be fine with that if she could deliver them with more emotion. But she just sounds really bland out there to me. Then I watch her wrestle and I’m like oh this girl can go! She’s a paradox for me.
You can only go back to the underdog and “I do it for you guys” so many times.
And the “Ever since I was a little girl” line
And the “Waited outside and watched wrestling since I was a little girl and this is what I’ve dreamed of.”
But its true for her. Its not a made up “background story”… Its her real life. Nothing better than real life.
Oh no I’m not disagreeing but I feel like it’s so over done. For me, it’s hard to get behind.
Right. She acts like she’s the only one that’s ever done that. She’s not the only superstar living her dreams
You look at underdogs like Sami Zayn and Daniel Bryan, I don’t ever recall them doing that.
Exactly
I mean she wasn’t even like this in NXT. Just sucks
Bliss
“A ball of fire” well done Cole
I caught that too lol
Thank you Bliss!
New champ
YESSSSSSSSSS
Alexa just made history
Sorry Bayley… winning in your hometown ain’t guaranteed anymore
All is right in the world
The “lose in your home town curse” strikes again!
Thoughts on Payback so far
Solid PPV…. Like always. Great wrestling
Oh my… House of Horrors is next
House of Horrors match next fingers crossed that they don’t mess this up
Are there only 2 more matches left?
Yes Roman and Strowman are the main event
What are you expecting for house of horrorsmatch.
#WeWantJinder
Lol
#WeWantJinder I agree
My son just said, “i dont like bray wyatt because he’s scary.”
I felt the exact same way as a kid when Kane debuted.
That means the character is doing its job! So many people on the internet forget that there are TONS of kids who watch wrestling as well and these characters are making them fans from a very early age!
Kids believe the wrestlers. Its hard to explain that statement but its true. Just how we believed when we were kids.
Its not hard to explain. Everyone who posts on the internet about wrestling forgets the fact that they were fans as children and continue to be fans as adults. There is a legion of children watching wrestling right now who will still be watching in 15 years and that should be the most important demographic to any wrestling promotion. WWE really understands this.
Have not seen you on here in sometime
Lol.
O_O
How long do you expect this match. I’ll say 40 minutes.
At least 40-45
It would be interesting to find out how much time Randy and Bray spent on this match before all the other talent got to the arena.
Sooooo is that house like near the arena or what?
Pre-taped??
That’s what I’m thinking
This match is already hokey. TooSpookyForMe
lol I’m actually scared
Guessing it’s doing the job then haha
Thoughts on the house of horrors match so far
I know I called it hokey, it kinda is but it’s honestly good. I am surprised.
We all know this ain’t live. It ain’t that dark in Cali right now lol
This house of horrors has turned out better then I thought
On twitter all the responses are the obligatory “trash” “crap” “lame” “dumb”
Bruh if the driver is Randy
I forgot about Joe vs Rollins
Smh
They’re doing that thing that Ambrose and Harper did a few years ago. When they had that Chicago Street Fight and they drove away in the Tahoe.
I like Rollins better as a heel
Agree. I had to warm up to the idea of Rollins being a face
He is OK as a face but much better as a heel
This is Joe’s first ppv on the main roster
He had one at Fastlane
Idk whats wrong with me tonight forgot about this match tonight and his match against sami at fastlane
Dam it get you’re shit together will you lol
I’ll do my best
Social media hates the House of Horrors match lol
Wow
Guarantee those same people were praising the hell out of Final Deletion. Nobody can be truly objective anymore. I would love to talk to some people to find out how they truly feel about this match.
I like it it’s been better then I thought it would be my exception was low
People praised the Final Deletion and Total Nonstop Deletion but yet crap all over the Houde of Horrors match like really what hypocrites
So it looks like Jericho is staying around little longer
Just long enough to drop the belt to AJ.
Hopefully
Yeah, he’s sticking around just long enough to drop the belt to AJ.
Good air time
Well alright then
That match was OK little bit of a let down
A little bit underwhelming
Is wwe serious about the great Ball’s of fire name or is this just a rib on the fans
They are serious about it
This seems like a Vince MacMahon idea
Totally 100%
I wish I could have been their when he told them that this was going to be the name of the ppv
Same I would have been laughing and be like you serious with that name
I still think the name is good.
All the name does is remind me of Hogan messing up the fireball against Ultimate Warrior
HoH driver is definitely Randy, I didn’t think it was too bad tbh. They could have cut the fridge “falling” on Orton a bit better. Maybe have one of his legs sticking out from behind it.
So is this Corporate Orton? Those slacks do remind me of a certain Big Red Corporate Machine…
I think they’re just black jeans lol
Has Bray gotten fatter to you?
Guess the breakup of the family is making him stress eat
Lol
I was thinking the same thing
I thought Wyatt was dead their for a min
YESSSSS
#JinderForChamp
The Singh Brothers are here with Jinder helping Bray and futher the feud
Get off my PPV you twat Mahal
#JinderforChamp
#JinderforDevelopmental
I am totally OK with the push he is getting
I CALLED IT! MY WISH HAS BEEN ANSWERED
Oh yeah this really does a lot for Bray doesn’t it, of course he can’t win a match without interference…
If they advertise one more movie….
I could watch Braun throw Ellsworth around for hours
I hate that Roman is gonna get booed out the building. He’s had a rough couple of weeks
The crowd has no sympathy and souls
That’s WWE fans for ya
It’s rough. But I would hope it’s only boos for the character and not the actual human being
You know how WWE fans can be tho
Oh yeah, brutal.
Yeah, these are more akin to the Die Rocky Die chants
I hope Roman wins
I’d like it, but I think Strowman wins to fight Lesnar. I’d like to see that match.
That would definantly be a nice match
The last person that comes to mind as being pushed as unstoppable before Braun was Rusev, and that took Cena to beat, and before that, Ryback. Rusev had a great push on the US title, and Braun’s push has been great. Makes me wonder how they messed up so badly with Ryback.
I think it had something with him losing to Cena and injuring CM Punk
The boos aren’t deafening. Definitely heard worse. Glad.
You cant retire the Undertaker & then lose to Strowman.
I mean….you could. Wouldn’t make sense but you could.
But he’s “injured”
You have to make Roman look strong
One CM Punk statement & you guys ate it up. Lol
I still think it’s funny to say even if it’s 3 years old haha
Lol
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0cffd834995be25efcedd108be419c8194208e005387906ebe4b1f0a9b7fd911.jpg this will still be funny 3 years from now also. Lol
It’s just laughable because he’s already beat Strowman clean so it’s a moot point now
You can wrestle to a no contest though.
I can see that happening.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0cffd834995be25efcedd108be419c8194208e005387906ebe4b1f0a9b7fd911.jpg
I feel like every time Michael Cole tries to segway to a new topic, Booker T goes back to an old topic.
Strowman has improved immensely since his squash matches
What. A. Spear.
HE DID NOT GET HIS SHOULDER UP
He actually did. Just wasn’t as dramatic because it was the injured shoulder
Haha. Wow
Strowman vs Lesnar at Great Balls of Fire??
Well… Im gonna go riot. brb
I’m pleasantly surprised
Will Ambrose interfere?
The crowd is chanting Thank You Strowman they have no souls
So WWE has Roman beat Taker and then throws that away for a clean loss to Strowman. Load gun, shoot foot.
I basically said the same thing also.
But Roman retiring Taker has been thrown away for really no reason.
Not necessarily. I wouldnt go that far.
Lol but ya how can Roman say this is his yard and retire Taker and lose clean at the next ppv
Taker lost matches also when it was his yard.
It’s not clean if he’s going in with previous injury. Roman has already beat Strowman clean at 100%.
Roman needed the win for the Taker match. Braun winning after that is an absolute waste of that momentum.
What momentum? By not turning him heel they didn’t create any lol. They needed someone to retire Taker and it couldn’t be Cena, so who else was it going to be?
The storyline with Roman/Strowman has been fantastic. Braun beat the total hell out of him on RAW & Roman at (kayfabe 50%) lost to Strowman who is at 100%. The outcome of the match is exactly what was supposed to hapoen.
I give Roman props for not flinching when Strowman took those steps to the stomach.
Thoughts on Payback tonight
Exceeded my expectations
Solid. As always. Consistent PPV’s for 2 years straight now.
It was awesome chatting with all of you once again! I appreciate the chat!